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&amp;quot;Irish Party Ale&amp;quot;:zbvqc7yx wrote: Oopsie! <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt="" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: --> Thanks for checking the volume of the initial container Delboy!
It looks like we'll be going for a different kit now, so we'll need to do the maths again and then let people know what region of IBU to aim for, although I think 25-35 seems reasonable.[/quote:zbvqc7yx]

That would seem to be about right on the ibu front, im pretty sure almost none of the lager/golden ale kits would go much above 25 ibus.
What kit is going to be used, i'd offer my own services as an all grain brew but im a bit far away to get involved.

BTW are all the beers being fermented with the same yeast, it can be a major determinate of flavour especially when you go beyond the usual dry yeasts.

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2m46kpls wrote: What kit is going to be used[/quote:2m46kpls] I think we're going for this[/url:2m46kpls] one. TBN will confirm. If we do go with this (and ignore evaporation) the IBU ends up around 25

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2m46kpls wrote: I'd offer my own services as an all grain brew but im a bit far away to get involved.[/quote:2m46kpls]If you change your mind I've a futon in Bray with your name on it <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2m46kpls wrote: BTW are all the beers being fermented with the same yeast, it can be a major determinate of flavour especially when you go beyond the usual dry yeasts.[/quote:2m46kpls]I think TBN will be using the kit yeast, while I, as the designated kit hacker, will use whatever everyone else is using (I believe Nottingham is the fungal weapon of choice among the hip young things these days)

&amp;quot;Irish Party Ale&amp;quot;:1zou4sr8 wrote:

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:1zou4sr8 wrote: What kit is going to be used[/quote:1zou4sr8] I think we're going for this[/url:1zou4sr8] one. TBN will confirm. If we do go with this (and ignore evaporation) the IBU ends up around 25

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:1zou4sr8 wrote: I'd offer my own services as an all grain brew but im a bit far away to get involved.[/quote:1zou4sr8]If you change your mind I've a futon in Bray with your name on it <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:1zou4sr8 wrote: BTW are all the beers being fermented with the same yeast, it can be a major determinate of flavour especially when you go beyond the usual dry yeasts.[/quote:1zou4sr8]I think TBN will be using the kit yeast, while I, as the designated kit hacker, will use whatever everyone else is using (I believe Nottingham is the fungal weapon of choice among the hip young things these days)[/quote:1zou4sr8]

Ah right missed that post, so the euro lager thats about 18 IBUs so maybe the others should look to do about 20-25 tops otherwise you might be able to pick them out on bitterness alone.
The yeast that comes with that kit is S-189 (a proper lager yeast) AFAIK, has the beernut got temp control, if you trying brewing this without it'll probably be completely out of whack (it'll be buttery as all hell), maybe nottingham would be the way to go, it would certainly keep everything the same across the board.

Thanks for the offer IPA i'll might just take you up on it sometime.

&amp;quot;Irish Party Ale&amp;quot;:ksdeixap wrote: If you change your mind I've a futon in Bray with your name on it[/quote:ksdeixap]It's the least-creepy feature of his delboy shrine.

&amp;quot;Irish Party Ale&amp;quot;:2wdgb389 wrote: My (admittedly underused) maths make out the Euro lager at
340 IBU * (1.7l / 23l) = 25.13 IBU,
so 25 - 30 IBUs would be the target range to aim for (I think!)[/quote:2wdgb389]

Sorry to be a pain IPA <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> but thats on the basis of weight it should be calculated on the basis of volume, they ain't the same as the concentrated sugars in the kit weigh a lot more than water.
The volume is 1.25 Litres so it 340X(1.25/23L) = 17-18 IBUs.