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[quote:22kf2ays]I don't see anything about the Irish microbrewing industry in their objectives. [/quote:22kf2ays]
Absolutely. CAMRA is a UK organisation which promotes cask beer. CAMRA NI is a branch of this and I don't see how they can depart from this agenda on their own. Having said that I would have thought that any beer that was on cask would have been welcome, whether produced year round or not.

"TheBeerNut":37680ovu wrote: If you think they ought to be doing something else then it sounds to me like a job for a different, yet-to-be-established, organisation. CAMRA have a very narrow remit and that's their preogative. I don't think anyone standing outside has any right to complain about their rules. They serve their objectives, not ours. I don't see anything about the Irish microbrewing industry in their objectives.[/quote:37680ovu]You're absolutely right, but it [i:37680ovu]would [/i:37680ovu]be nice if the NI branch had the scope to broaden its remit considering the geography involved.

Does this bring us back to the EBCU thread <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:37ura68x wrote: it [i:37ura68x]would [/i:37ura68x]be nice if the NI branch had the scope to broaden its remit considering the geography involved.[/quote:37ura68x]Yes, it would be nice if this organisation did things that suited us. However, I think it's highly unfair to say that their not doing what we'd like is "a disgrace".

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:37ura68x wrote: Does this bring us back to the EBCU thread <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->[/quote:37ura68x]Unfortunately yes: if we want a consumer organisation in our own image we will have to fashion it ourselves.

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:91fw4n0p wrote:

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:91fw4n0p wrote: it [i:91fw4n0p]would [/i:91fw4n0p]be nice if the NI branch had the scope to broaden its remit considering the geography involved.[/quote:91fw4n0p]Yes, it would be nice if this organisation did things that suited us. However, I think it's highly unfair to say that their not doing what we'd like is "a disgrace".[/quote:91fw4n0p]
I certainly wouldn't call it a disgrace myself, as they're doing bloody brilliant work. I also wouldn't be asking them to do something to suit [i:91fw4n0p]us[/i:91fw4n0p] (although it depends who you mean by us, I thought you meant ICB), but maybe think about broading their scope locally to help promote the craft brewers on this Island in their territory.

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:91fw4n0p wrote:

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:91fw4n0p wrote: Does this bring us back to the EBCU thread <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->[/quote:91fw4n0p]Unfortunately yes: if we want a consumer organisation in our own image we will have to fashion it ourselves.[/quote:91fw4n0p]
Still open for discussion in the pub some evening <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:1bw569yz wrote: I also wouldn't be asking them to do something to suit [i:1bw569yz]us[/i:1bw569yz] (although it depends who you mean by us, I thought you meant ICB)[/quote:1bw569yz]I mean the general sort of craft beer malcontents that ICB attracts, and among whose number I am proud to count myself.

Did the rules stipulate that the brewery had to produce cask ale year round? If brewers who don't normally produce cask ale were prepared to make a festival edition this should, in my view, have been accepted.

Camra are of course free to make their own rules and I'm all in favour of a bit of pressure in favour of conditioned beer. I understand the point about the economics of cask beer in a pub environment, but there is no excuse for the number of microbreweries selling filtererd pasteurised bottled ale.