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Thanks! Are FES, SES and Guinness Draught completely separate products from the beginning of the brewing process to the end? Differing diacetyl levels would suggest FES has a different fermentation regime -- is that right? And is there any overlap between the beers before fermentation?

FES is made in a completely different 'brewery' (which I spent very little time in) on the site. It has a different grain bill and a different fermentation schedule like you said. All the other products (draught, extra stout, and special export) are made in the main brew house. And have the same fermentation schedule just different grain bills/hop extract additions. Special export is the only beer they make that uses only 100% malted barley. In the other beers they use some unmalted barley and let the malted barleys diastic power mash this aswell. It is up to 30% unmalted barley now for the regular stout. It should be noted that Extra stout and draught are the exact same beer just one is carbonated and the other nitrogenated.

Thanks again. Very interesting.

"Guyzer":3uicqt6k wrote: It should be noted that Extra stout and draught are the exact same beer just one is carbonated and the other nitrogenated.[/quote:3uicqt6k]

It is amazing the difference the serving method makes. I had a few large bottles off the shelf last night and had some auld fella telling me how I couldn't drink anything better, that the yeast is good for me and how the pint is full of chemicals these days.
I know its not bottle conditioned any more but I often feel a powdery/grainy texture on my tongue when drinking large Guinness, anyone know what causes that?

Cocaine?

"Guyzer":353uwf9l wrote: FES is made in a completely different 'brewery' (which I spent very little time in) on the site. [/quote:353uwf9l]

Do I detect a bit of real inside knowledge here?

If so then what is the "secret ingredient known only to 3 brewers"?? ( Ref to the Discovery channel "mega factories" program )

Anyways thanks for the aforementioned info

Cheers

Will ( always looking for secrets )