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"Dungarvan Brewing Company":3pnjptd1 wrote: Thanks for the nice feedback guys!

"padraic":3pnjptd1 wrote: Noby/Dungarvan brewing company - Is the hand pump in mulligans yours or is that their own?[/quote:3pnjptd1]

Everywhere our beers are being served on cask the handpump is our own, with the exception of the Bull and Castle who have their own rotation tap. This includes L Mulligan's and Against the Grain.
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-Thanks for the transparency, Dungarvan. Things like this are important for the Irish craft beer consumer to understand; especially those consumers that "demand" a near price parity between locally produced, small batch craft beer and megalithic multinational industrial beer. (or at least those consumers that vocally say that they demand it in public forums like this one)

The macros have been giving the pubs pretty much everything they could ever desire for carrying their beers for so many years that Irish Craft Breweries are essentially forced, too as well and all of these things impact the cost or viability of Irish Craft Beer.

-Micros are usually required to provide taps and lines to breweries, they're required to distribute the beer to the pubs and often offies themselves, they're required to pay the BoC "mafia" outrageous prices for CO2 (compared to the rest of the world), and they're usually required to come in and clean the pubs' beer lines that connect to their taps (or pay someone to do it for them.)

I'll happily pay a local Irish Craft Brewery more for their locally produced, higher quality, and more flavor some products understanding that doing so is necessary for their long-term viability.


Sorry for hijacking the thread but there's a whole lot of discussion on here sometimes about how "beer should be cheaper" without much discussion on how realistic or sustainable these made-up "ideal" lower prices are.


Adam
Today's random Irish Craft Beer Fact: Many/Most? Irish Micros don't start making ANY profit until their 3rd keg of beer sold per keg per month per pub and it's not a great profit even after that. (The first two kegs worth of profit go to the free stuff they're required to give to the pubs because Guinness and Heineken already give these services away for free to the pubs.)
-If your local turns over 1 keg a week there's only 2 kegs a month worth of profit. (Exact numbers depend upon economies of scale, of course but most craft breweries in Ireland are still pretty tiny. -If you want your Craft Beer for the long-term, you better support your craft breweries with your wallet today!

/end rant

"Gremlins":1vs1f4nm wrote: Or reduce the taxes for local, micro-breweries…[/quote:1vs1f4nm]

They already are.

"donnchadhc":idwxcocb wrote:

"Gremlins":idwxcocb wrote: Or reduce the taxes for local, micro-breweries…[/quote:idwxcocb]

They already are.[/quote:idwxcocb]

OK. Good to know. Excuse my ignorance of the irish taxes <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> and glad that they are reduced.