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I'd say it's a little facile to dismiss the term as void of political significance, but let's leave this topic for another forum, where it belongs.

The pub perhaps.

&amp;quot;Hombre Lúpulo&amp;quot;:3t6y10wh wrote: The pub perhaps.[/quote:3t6y10wh] <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Fair enough.

Doubt I'd pay E22 for that book to be honest but there ya go

The Italian big brewer Moretti makes a forgettable lager (much like Peroni), but they also make a beer that is very much in the style of a German bock under the name "La Rossa." It is marked as a "doppiomalto," in a brown bottle with a reddish label. It really is a quite impressive beer.

I first ran across La Rossa at a Chicago Italian restaurant called The Como Inn, which had been around since the early 1920s, which many of the more notorious of Chicago's underworld frequented in that era, was still around until the late 1990s. It had quite a business hosting lunches and dinners for the various professional and trade association in Chicago. Their menu fare was pretty standard and unremarkable, but if you knew a few people and what the kitchen could do off-menu, they could turn out some fabulous items. I attribute its eventual closing to the failure of the sons of the original owner treating it as more of a cash cow to support their other interests instead of re-investing in the place to keep it current and in good repair. Too much worn carpet, nicked woodwork, etc., and certainly there would have been even more deterioration in the parts of the facility the public did not see.

Yes, I've had the Moretti lager (Bierra Moretti) and the both the La Rossa and the regular Doppio Malto in Dublin. Quite fond of them actually, and they all go nice with a big burger.

Would worn capets and nicked woodwork not have been character? Certainly seems to be for Oirish pubs where they bash things with hammers and the like to [i:1ecbewll]make [/i:1ecbewll]them look old <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

It seems I'll be staying there for two nights, so opportunities for proper exploration are increasing.