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This is food for thought. A public planning application made to Leitrim County Council for change of use, to turn a garage into a microbrewery.

A frustrating amount of red tape -- and remember this is only the planning permission. Nothing to do with Revenue etc.

It's disappointing that time and effort needed to be spent on the most basic of things like:
1. Explaining to the CoCo that to rent a premises would cost money
2. Explaining to the CoCo there is no need for a staff toilet to be installed as the "staff" (husband and wife) own the adjoining house
3. Getting on to the HSE for their opinion on the toilet in the house issue.

Also, there is an office in the house but it has been stipulated that an additional PP application is needed if this is to be used as part of the microbrewery!

And on top of all the usual costs there's a €1,025 "development levy" despite the fact that there is no new development, only a change of use.

Very disheartening to see this level of red tape.

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I have found in the past when applying for planning permission for "unusual" builds i.e. anything thats not a house. That the easiest way is often to hire a specialist to make the application. The reason being that the council trusts their judgment and opinions rather than someone new to applications.

Regarding the toilet, I'm guessing that a brewery has to be treated the same as a commercial kitchen and therefore will be inspected by the health inspector? If so a household toilet will not be up to scratch hygiene wise (no offence meant). You would not be able to have things like perfumed soap, bath or toilet matts, toothbrushes etc. and you would have to create a daily clean rota, potentially change out of your work uniform before you use the toilet etc. etc. all easily do'able though.

It all make sense AFTER you've finished the application though!!

They employed the services of an engineer/architect.

Also, the need for a new toilet was eventually rescinded by the CoCo after the HSE said the existing one was fine.

I agree Shane, the bullshit and red tape involved with almost everything in this country is ridiculous.

Dont get me started about the planning department.

We have a great knack of making things difficult and complicated where there is no need for it

&amp;quot;Tube&amp;quot;:1rd4fp5u wrote: They employed the services of an engineer/architect.

Also, the need for a new toilet was eventually rescinded by the CoCo after the HSE said the existing one was fine.[/quote:1rd4fp5u]


So its still full steam ahead then?

&amp;quot;Thommo&amp;quot;:2pqssx8c wrote:

&amp;quot;Tube&amp;quot;:2pqssx8c wrote: They employed the services of an engineer/architect.

Also, the need for a new toilet was eventually rescinded by the CoCo after the HSE said the existing one was fine.[/quote:2pqssx8c]


So its still full steam ahead then?[/quote:2pqssx8c]
Yes, and congratulations to them despite all the BS.

I see on the Revenue's website they've also got a brewing (manufacturer's) licence.