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"nigel_c":3giz4rsu wrote: 1. TheBeerNut (Pale ale) 2. Brian_c (Citra pale ale) 3. SBillings (It depends. Beer, probably) 4. Saruman Beoir#2 tests 5. Giacomo (peppercorn porter 6. Nigel ( framboise , maybe something else)[/quote:3giz4rsu] proper spontaneous framboise or cultured "wild" yeast inoculated? Nigel, could you bring Reuben the Blind Pig please?