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15 years 10 months ago #19

"Shamroguery", that would be a brilliant name for a commercial beer.

Putting my oar in here. While water chemistry is mostly about getting the pH right in the mash, the salts in your brewing water do have an effect on the flavour of the beer, quite a part from pH. For instance, you could use Calcium Chloride or Calcium Sulphate, more or less interchangeably to affect the pH of your mash, but the flavours in the resulting beer would be different depending on which you used. Calcium Chloride tends to accentuate malt flavours and mouth-feel, while Calcium Sulphate accentuates bitterness and hop flavours.

This is why it would make sense for them to top up with RO water. If the local water had a bunch of some salt or other in it, it could affect the beer in an unpredictable way.

The same could be said for extract homebrew topup water. If you have worked out salt additions in the main boil to give you a particular flavour profile, adding water with a bunch of unknown minerals in it might skew it. I can't see it being much of an issue though. Most extract brewers make great beers with whatever water comes out of the tap. You only need to worry about it if you have consistent flavour problems with your beers. If hop flavours are dull, you might need to add a bit of Gypsum (calcium sulphate) for example.

15 years 10 months ago #20

"sbillings":7anhsj9q wrote: Putting my oar in here. While water chemistry is mostly about getting the pH right in the mash, the salts in your brewing water do have an effect on the flavour of the beer, quite a part from pH. For instance, you could use Calcium Chloride or Calcium Sulphate, more or less interchangeably to affect the pH of your mash, but the flavours in the resulting beer would be different depending on which you used. Calcium Chloride tends to accentuate malt flavours and mouth-feel, while Calcium Sulphate accentuates bitterness and hop flavours.[/quote:7anhsj9q]True, and again the effects are felt in the mash so should be locked in by the time the wort is produced.

"sbillings":7anhsj9q wrote: This is why it would make sense for them to top up with RO water. If the local water had a bunch of some salt or other in it, it could affect the beer in an unpredictable way.

The same could be said for extract homebrew topup water. If you have worked out salt additions in the main boil to give you a particular flavour profile, adding water with a bunch of unknown minerals in it might skew it. I can't see it being much of an issue though. Most extract brewers make great beers with whatever water comes out of the tap. You only need to worry about it if you have consistent flavour problems with your beers. If hop flavours are dull, you might need to add a bit of Gypsum (calcium sulphate) for example.[/quote:7anhsj9q]This tallies with the comment on the podcast but I think you've put your finger on the reasoning behind it. It would be interesting to compare the results of two extract recipes brewed in the same manner with different water sources. Even within Dublin there are vastly differing supplies in terms of the alkalinity and calcium levels.

15 years 10 months ago #21

i want to pose another question. since SLBC are not fermenting in Ireland do they have to pay Alc Duty here? Also if the "brewery" doesn't produce any Alcohol do they even need a Brewers License?

15 years 10 months ago #22

"beeristhereason":66vknam2 wrote: i want to pose another question. since SLBC are not fermenting in Ireland do they have to pay Alc Duty here?[/quote:66vknam2]Well the wort-brewery is in the UK so even if they were finishing the beer there they would still be paying UK duty. But I doubt they pay duty: it would be more sensible to lump it in as part of the contract payment.

"beeristhereason":66vknam2 wrote: Also if the "brewery" doesn't produce any Alcohol do they even need a Brewers License?[/quote:66vknam2]No, I don't see how they would.

15 years 10 months ago #23

Maybe they should release the product as an extract home-brew kit too, probably a market in the us of it?

15 years 10 months ago #24

If they are exporting the beer, UK duty is not an issue anyway, as UK duty is only charged on beer to be sold in the UK, regardless of where it is brewed.
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