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"andrew":1t1sfvjx wrote: remember terms like "artisan" are not protected when talking about beer, cider or spirits. Only food.[/quote:1t1sfvjx]Source? On the FSAI's general principles page[/url:1t1sfvjx], it sets out what is and isn't food, legally speaking, and drink is included. The guidance document mentions mineral water at one point. Beer, cider and spirits are certainly within the remit of the FSAI: I don't know why they wouldn't be covered by this.

Irish craft cider pretty much does fit the artisan definition, doesn't it?

"Saruman":e65cpk5l wrote: Farmhouse is another separate and protected term but I didn't mention it as it would only apply to a few breweries like Kinnegar and Black Donkey perhaps and maybe even not then.[/quote:e65cpk5l]It wouldn't, because
[quote:e65cpk5l]The characteristic ingredient(s) used in the food are grown or produced locally[/quote:e65cpk5l]is a criterion.

"TheBeerNut":1hixcq9m wrote:

"Saruman":1hixcq9m wrote: Farmhouse is another separate and protected term but I didn't mention it as it would only apply to a few breweries like Kinnegar and Black Donkey perhaps and maybe even not then.[/quote:1hixcq9m]It wouldn't, because
[quote:1hixcq9m]The characteristic ingredient(s) used in the food are grown or produced locally[/quote:1hixcq9m]is a criterion.[/quote:1hixcq9m]

From a consumrer point over you would rapidly find out who was still using imported base malt

"oblivious":1bw9t89r wrote:

"TheBeerNut":1bw9t89r wrote:

"Saruman":1bw9t89r wrote: Farmhouse is another separate and protected term but I didn't mention it as it would only apply to a few breweries like Kinnegar and Black Donkey perhaps and maybe even not then.[/quote:1bw9t89r]It wouldn't, because
[quote:1bw9t89r]The characteristic ingredient(s) used in the food are grown or produced locally[/quote:1bw9t89r]is a criterion.[/quote:1bw9t89r]

From a consumrer point over you would rapidly find out who was still using imported base malt[/quote:1bw9t89r]

What about locally grown barley that is malted in the UK? It exists.

"oblivious":2t5qh9ao wrote:

"TheBeerNut":2t5qh9ao wrote:

"Saruman":2t5qh9ao wrote: Farmhouse is another separate and protected term but I didn't mention it as it would only apply to a few breweries like Kinnegar and Black Donkey perhaps and maybe even not then.[/quote:2t5qh9ao]It wouldn't, because
[quote:2t5qh9ao]The characteristic ingredient(s) used in the food are grown or produced locally[/quote:2t5qh9ao]is a criterion.[/quote:2t5qh9ao]
From a consumrer point over you would rapidly find out who was still using imported base malt[/quote:2t5qh9ao]

"still using" That reads like its a bad thing. Whats the issue using British & German malts? They're top drawer.