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"TheBeerNut":a908a2yk wrote:

"Atticus":a908a2yk wrote: you can't deny that it's a very handy guide for the novice.[/quote:a908a2yk]I can. This novice brewer has no use for such a thing. [/quote:a908a2yk]
Well [i:a908a2yk]this[/i:a908a2yk] novice brewer does. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

I think you're being too precious about it tbh.

&amp;quot;halite&amp;quot;:23825ubf wrote: Holy cra*p, I should have kept this to myself <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt="" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->[/quote:23825ubf]You can't have a proper beer discussion group without a style row now and again. ICB has been very underserved in that capacity over the years.

&amp;quot;Atticus&amp;quot;:23825ubf wrote: Well this novice brewer does[/quote:23825ubf]And you're welcome to it. I wouldn't dream of telling you what you can and can't deny about it.

&amp;quot;Atticus&amp;quot;:23825ubf wrote: I think you're being too precious about it tbh.[/quote:23825ubf]Well the alternative is doing some actual [i:23825ubf]work[/i:23825ubf], so I'll cling on to my preciousness, thanks very much.

Make Beer Not Styles!

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:efpd8afi wrote: But there's no tied house system in the US, so how could an American style codifier understand that there won't be five different Best Bitters on the bar for the drinker to choose from? By thinking about it for half a second? Yeah, I suppose... [/quote:efpd8afi]The idea of brewery-owned pubs wouldn't even occur to an American, since that's a vertical monopoly and a violation of US anti-trust laws (see [i:efpd8afi]United States v Paramount Pictures[/i:efpd8afi], 1948). Drinking in English pubs is the only way to really see how it works, and most Yanks wouldn't get the chance.

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:efpd8afi wrote: How do you brew an "authentic" Oktoberfest style when what they're serving in the tents now was markedly different from ten years ago?[/quote:efpd8afi]Isn't this what recipes are for? I'm glad that someone can make a porter from 1910 if they want to. And to me, a snapshot of a beer in a time and place is a style.

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:efpd8afi wrote: Edit: Oh, and I'm sure you'll all be pleased to see that we've hit both ends of Barm's-Billings's Law[/url:efpd8afi].[/quote:efpd8afi]Delighted! Now just as long as nobody mentions Hitler... oops.

&amp;quot;KeeganAles&amp;quot;:efpd8afi wrote: If anything, styles help define traditional beers. [/quote:efpd8afi]

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:efpd8afi wrote: If done right.[/quote:efpd8afi]

&amp;quot;Atticus&amp;quot;:efpd8afi wrote: I think you're being too precious about it tbh.[/quote:efpd8afi]

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:efpd8afi wrote: Well the alternative is doing some actual [i:efpd8afi]work[/i:efpd8afi], so I'll cling on to my preciousness, thanks very much.[/quote:efpd8afi]
Ha! You beat me to it.
It does sound like somebody needs to be making their own style guide. There's no better man!

&amp;quot;KeeganAles&amp;quot;:1yudb0q7 wrote: There's no better man![/quote:1yudb0q7]There is[/url:1yudb0q7]. You can buy his style guide to Britain in 1909 here[/url:1yudb0q7].

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:3u7ssnxl wrote:

&amp;quot;KeeganAles&amp;quot;:3u7ssnxl wrote: There's no better man![/quote:3u7ssnxl]There is[/url:3u7ssnxl]. You can buy his style guide to Britain in 1909 here[/url:3u7ssnxl].[/quote:3u7ssnxl]

His prices have gone through the roof, why?