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I am sorry I still have to disagree and what you are doing is not exempt from duty.

The fundamental fact remains that you are selling a service where you provide all the ingredients and storage location for fermenting and producing alcohol.

You can consult with every lawyer in the land they don't determine what is legal or not, when it comes to alcohol, that is the job of Revenue and perhaps they should have been your first phone call.
Please consult with them and let us know what they say.

By the way I don't need to have this discussion by pm's either.
You got free advertising from Beoir, I said nothing defamatory about your company I merely stated the facts.

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37:40 for anybody else that wants to look at it.

I agree with Ciderhead, the revenue should be the first call you make about this sort of thing.
We would be very interesting to hear how you get on and to be honest, I wish you all the best and hope that it is doable because it would open up some interesting possibilities brewing beer as well!

That said, the only way it could possibly be legal is for personal home consumption only. Not for weddings and certainly not restaurants as a house wine option as presumably that would require a monetary transaction and that would bring the revenue swarming in on said restaurant first and then you would be their target. I would be very careful about some of the things you are promoting.

That said, for personal home consumption where you are simply providing the space to do it and storage, it "might" just about be legal but only revenue can make that call.

When restaurants want to make their house wine.
They have to inform the revenue and pay the taxes on their wine.
They make their own wine, they inform the tax. They pay the tax.
With paying the alcohol tax on their wines it would still be a lot cheaper than importing from other countries.
Everybody who makes his own wine in our shop is signing a paper.
On the paper is standing that the customer made the wine and sprinkled the yeast to start the fermentation and that we made them aware that it is illegal to sell bottles. When it is for restaurants/hotels we have another paper they have to sign witch says they have to inform the tax and pay the alcohol tax on their wines

About the beer, no beer is made on my premises.
I m selling beer kits, malts hops etc but only to make at home.

That's fascinating, so it's easier for a restaurant or pub to make its own wine than beer? Grrr....

The law is very clear about [b:f91agvf5]brewing[/b:f91agvf5].

To make beer, you mix ingredients and you brew it.
Definitely commercial beer. Not likely you are going to sell beer made from kits.
Although you can make very nice beers from kits with adding malts but without brewing

To make wine, you mix ingredients, that s it....[b:f91agvf5]no brewing[/b:f91agvf5]
You just put grape juice, water and ingredients in a barrel
You are not heating anything up. No brewing

the regulations quoted by Ciderhead refer very clearly to wine too, though.

Anyway,the advice provided by others above is clear - the best people to consult are Revenue. Even better to get that advice in writing if you can.

Best of luck. Saw your pitch on Dragons Den - thought it was very good