Just remembered when that random punter came into the shop and tried a bit of the butte Creek pale. He said he didn't think much of it and then proceeded to walk over to the fridge grab a 2litre of Linden Village and purchase it at the counter. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="

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Thats the type of thing you are up against.