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"Poc":3c0drprm wrote: I'm staying well away from making any comment here.[/quote:3c0drprm]
You just failed so.

"RichieH":3or64kgp wrote: yes but I think if it's an ingredient that's part of process, and not technically "in" the finished beer[/quote:3or64kgp]Exactly. They can put all sorts of stuff in it and still pass it off as gebot, particularly if it's top fermented.

&amp;quot;EoinMag&amp;quot;:3or64kgp wrote: Germans are very proud of their oldest law.[/quote:3or64kgp]You mean very proud of a Bavarian law that was foisted on the rest of them during the 1870's because Bavaria insisted on it before they would join the German Union in 1871, thereby destroying the local beer culture of the rest of the country. Grrr <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

Anyway, it's no longer a law, but most German breweries will plaster on the bottles as a marketing tool, even if it does not technically follow the original.

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:2tf0kdvj wrote: most German breweries will plaster on the bottles as a marketing tool[/quote:2tf0kdvj]Great! Insist on paying one pfennig (€0.02) a litre. Any more isn't 'gebot.

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:3v19qunc wrote: Anyway, it's no longer a law, but most German breweries will plaster on the bottles as a marketing tool, even if it does not technically follow the original.[/quote:3v19qunc]

Yea original no yeast was included <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

I didnt mean to question anyones beliefs or try belittle someones morals. Hope you dont take offence Alan G.L. at least if you brew your own you can be 100% sure of what went onto it <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

A friend of mine is vegan and doesn't drink beer because of the isinglass. He was quite happy to find out he can drink my home brew.

Pretty much all English breweries use isinglass to clear the real ale. It clears it fast so it will be fresh in the pubs. There isn't a good alternative to isinglass that is cheap and works as well at the moment. There is research into alternatives ongoing though.